Best bolt .22LR ?

[connexion123]

Cooey all the way

[Pistooli]

You can't buy sucess, you need to know what you are doing to be successfull.
I have found where .22 rimfires are concerned there is little to choose between the bolt actions where accuracy potential is concerned. With the right ammo and a decent scope a $200 .22 will shoot as good as any other with the same barrel length. Long barreled rifles are quieter than their short barrel counterparts and their range is greater, this is especially noticeable with .22 rifles. The .22's that do have a major advantage over all the others are the Martini action rifles, the thing that gives them the edge is that the lock time is drastically reduced, this makes a BIG difference. I saw a .22 Martini target rifle at the gun show in Hanna last weekend in perfect condition, it had a price tag of only $250. I was sorely tempted.

[Pistooli]

There's a good article explaining the Martini action here...
http://10point9.ie/2010/04/04/vicker...rtini-jubilee/


"There are no headspacing issues. None. The falling-block design just doesn’t have that problem. Nor do you have problems with lock times, the falling-block trigger mechanism has the fastest lock time of any rifle action bar the modern rotating-block and metal storm designs, neither of which are really target shooting mechanisms! In fact, lets look at that trigger mechanism for a moment:"

[camerl2009]

Originally Posted by Pistooli

There's a good article explaining the Martini action here...
http://10point9.ie/2010/04/04/vicker...rtini-jubilee/


"There are no headspacing issues. None. The falling-block design just doesn’t have that problem. Nor do you have problems with lock times, the falling-block trigger mechanism has the fastest lock time of any rifle action bar the modern rotating-block and metal storm designs, neither of which are really target shooting mechanisms! In fact, lets look at that trigger mechanism for a moment:"

wow thats simple as hell now only if i had a mill and lathe

[Pistooli]

Getting hold of a mill and a lathe is the easy bit, learning how to use them takes time. One little screw up and you have to start all over again, I have considerable experience with screw ups.

Here's a video demonstrating the inherent accuracy of the martini action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvK5o...eature=related

[Pistooli]

I went to a gunshow this weekend and looked for a martini action .22 target rifle but there was nothing there. There was two Anshutz CIL target rifles one for $600 and one for $700 but I did not like the look of them. On my third or fourth circuit of the show which was almost deserted, I came across a Russian TOZ 12 target rifle with a heavy barrel and target sights. It was made shortly after WW2, I bought it for $150.
I was knackered from the journey home but could not resist seeing what it could do. All I can say is it that it's amazing. It has a two stage trigger that must release at a couple of ounces max. I put a ten shots into a ten cents coin at 25 yds with federal American Eagle. I can't see how a rifle could be more accurate. With quality ammo and no wind I think it could put the lot into one hole. I can't see how a rifle could be more accurate.

[camerl2009]

Originally Posted by Pistooli

I went to a gunshow this weekend and looked for a martini action .22 target rifle but there was nothing there. There was two Anshutz CIL target rifles one for $600 and one for $700 but I did not like the look of them. On my third or fourth circuit of the show which was almost deserted, I came across a Russian TOZ 12 target rifle with a heavy barrel and target sights. It was made shortly after WW2, I bought it for $150.
I was knackered from the journey home but could not resist seeing what it could do. All I can say is it that it's amazing. It has a two stage trigger that must release at a couple of ounces max. I put a ten shots into a ten cents coin at 25 yds with federal American Eagle. I can't see how a rifle could be more accurate. With quality ammo and no wind I think it could put the lot into one hole. I can't see how a rifle could be more accurate.

nice buy im looking at making a custom .22 i dont know where to start
i got the blueprints for a sten mk2 maybe a .22 sten gun

[Pistooli]

A .22 sten would be difficult to make without scaling down the whole thing as there is not enough power in the cartridge to blow a full size bolt back.

I tried shooting the TOZ ar 75 yds but I have trouble aiming at that distance, I just cant see clearly enough through the target sight. I missed two gophers this afternoon. I will stick a scope on it, that will fix the problem.

[camerl2009]

Originally Posted by Pistooli

A .22 sten would be difficult to make without scaling down the whole thing as there is not enough power in the cartridge to blow a full size bolt back.

I tried shooting the TOZ ar 75 yds but I have trouble aiming at that distance, I just cant see clearly enough through the target sight. I missed two gophers this afternoon. I will stick a scope on it, that will fix the problem.

i know thats what i did i scaled the blueprint's down its just one
of my crazy idea's

[Pistooli]

Thats better.